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Matt's Army

Hello everyone, during Dean's first live online event, Matt suggested making offers at 70% asking price or even bumping up the offers if 70% isn't working. My understanding is that (as a Wholesaler) I start at 70%, then subtract rehab, holding, profit, closing costs and misc in order to make an offer - is that wrong? Matt and Dean seemed to suggest going the other way. I can get properties at 70%+ all day, the problem is that my local Buyers won't buy because they say there is no profit at that level. Anyone else having this problem? Does anyone know of Buyers that will buy at this price point? Dean/Matt/Anyone, are you interested in buying in Huntsville, Al at 70% price point?

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this back and forth

Hi Carl its like any state, town,city where Realestate is being sold and bought you will find the right deals and you need to keep looking and find away to make it fit, wish you very much success, keep an open mind my friend and fellow investor and keep moving forward you will reap success, have an awesome day!!!!, Jim

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What about REOs?

Hi guys,

I read this thread and listened to Dean and Matt's webcast. One question I had, when I'm filtering through the properties, do I want to avoid all REOs? If so, what keywords do I look for to avoid them if the notes don't specifically say "REO"?

Vincent

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@Vincent

I would not avoid REOs. Just make sure you understand any caveats the Banks or HUD may have in their addendums. In some cases, they have stringent no resell, 120% profit limits, and/or 90 day holding periods. Beyond that, they are just as marketable as any other property.


Carl

This town seems challenging. Have you tried going to an auction and meeting the cash buyers there? Maybe try finding an investment club close to you? Or Just try Lease option for a change.

Good luck, keep us posted.


Hi Joshua

Yes, the town is challenging, but there are opportunitites, I just have to find out what works. I have attended both Auctions and the local REIA, and that is where I have met most of my Buyers. I have also picked up a few Buyers via Craigslist. I believe Lease Options here are possible; however, I am primarily trying the Wholesale route right now.

Thanks, and I will keep everyone posted.


Niche in Huntsville

Hey Carl,
How's it going this week?

In response to the question from Vincent-- I am a huge advocate of REO's as a focus for wholesaling, so I would not recommend giving up on REO's, however IF you wish to search non-REO's do just that: your search would be NO-REO's [and NO-S/S's], but your quantity will go wat down, and adversely effect your 25:1 goals.

Carl, As I was reading that you have found most of your buyers at you REIC-- m,aybe that's your niche... I have found many investors (buyers) to be quite helpful. So, weed out the Rehabbers-- they need a better discount and are generally more frugal. Locate your LANDLORDS-- they will often pay closer to asking, so that will help with your lower spreads. Latch on to one LANDLORD (Buy/hold guy)... ask him respectfully for a little extra tie to hear about HIS deals... as he tells you about HIS deals and his favorite deals, absorb his criteria and tell him you will work very hard to bring him what he is looking for.... you might find a niche to grow from right there.

Make sense?

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@Tina1

Hi Tina, Thanks for the suggestion! I think I will need to contact my Buyers to find out which ones are looking to buy and hold. I only know of two in my group and they have some very stingent criteria, but perhaps some of the others are the "buy and hold" type. In addition, I am also now thinking about going out on my linkedin account and putting out a blast for out of town buyers looking for turn-keys (which we seem to have a lot of in my town). I know a couple of Property Management companies that I could potentially hook them up with in order to give them in-town management. Thanks for the suggestions! I'll let you know how it goes....

Regards,

Carl


And the juices flow....

Keep it up Carl. All doors are open, don't let anything block the way.
You can do this. Keep talking at us.

Good thoughts--
Tina

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Never, Never, Never Quit, N3Q
"Nothing happens until you place an offer."
"Skip Deal #1, go straight to Deal #2; it's so much easier."

"There is nothing so useless as doing efficiently that which should not be done at all." — Peter F. Drucker... so, "Don't sweat the small stuff." -R.Carlson. "The greatest mistake you can make in life is to be continually fearing you will make one."~E.Hubbard, The Note Book, 1927...so, Do it for the right reason and "Do it with a headache!" - Dean Graziosi, Weekly Wisdom #176


Thank you

Carl, thank you for those kind and encouraging words. I never give up, events like this make me work harder and look for ways to think outside the box. I try to create my own box!!
Thank you
Raymond


@Raymond motivated by Tina1's messaging

Raymond, You're welcome. In the true spirit of group support expoused naturally by Tina1, we all need to encourage each other as much as possible.


How about this....

LivingOnRealEstate wrote:
Carl, thank you for those kind and encouraging words. I never give up, events like this make me work harder and look for ways to think outside the box. I try to create my own box!!
Thank you
Raymond

How about this thought: Why think there is even a box to think outside of? If possibilities are endless, a box requires you to put limitations in place or else there'd be no box.

Just a random, boxless thought Laughing out loud

Andy Sager
DG's AndyS
CFIC member

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Assign REOs?

Tina and Carl,

Thanks for the reply! I know there are a lot of good REOs out there, my question though is I thought you can't assign REOs? Would I just double close on an REO? Is there a way I can do it without having to worry about transactional funding costs?

I know you can assign it if it's not an REO, but I know REOs are becoming a big part of the market supply now.

Vincent

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Schrodinger's Box

AndyS wrote:

How about this thought: Why think there is even a box to think outside of? If possibilities are endless, a box requires you to put limitations in place or else there'd be no box.

Just a random, boxless thought Laughing out loud

Andy Sager
DG's AndyS
CFIC member

Well, I use the box to hold my profits in. I don't know what you do with yours.
Laughing out loud

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@Vincent

My understaning on REOs: You will either have to (1) Double close (simultaneous in some areas) using Transactional Funding; or, (2) If you can find a Buyer between Acceptance of your offer and providing the "wet" signauture on a final contract, have your Buyer sign on the contract with you, and then you execute a "quit claim" the same day of closing, transferring your interest to the Buyer. However, I will defer to some of the more seasoned folks' responses. And I would definitely talk to a local attorney or title company official about what is acceptable in your state. Regards, Carl


Assigning REOs

pandpvinc wrote:
Tina and Carl,

Thanks for the reply! I know there are a lot of good REOs out there, my question though is I thought you can't assign REOs? Would I just double close on an REO? Is there a way I can do it without having to worry about transactional funding costs?

I know you can assign it if it's not an REO, but I know REOs are becoming a big part of the market supply now.

Vincent

Vincent:
The biggest problem at the time with REOs was the seasoning issue. Double closing the property removes the assigning issue but there may be issues or clauses in the contract from the bank to you(the A to B part of a double close) stating that you cannot resell this property for XXX amount of days or for a profit of more than X%. This is something you really should have your RE lawyer confirm and you understand prior to pursuing them. Know before you GO...

Hope this helps... Eye-wink

Andy Sager
DG's AndyS
CFIC member

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What I do...

Mark K wrote:
AndyS wrote:

How about this thought: Why think there is even a box to think outside of? If possibilities are endless, a box requires you to put limitations in place or else there'd be no box.

Just a random, boxless thought Laughing out loud

Andy Sager
DG's AndyS
CFIC member

Well, I use the box to hold my profits in. I don't know what you do with yours.
Laughing out loud

I pay off my CC bills so there's nothing left to go into the receptacle as yet. LOL Eye-wink

AndyS Laughing out loud

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CFIC & IE member
2013, 2014, 2015 & 2016 EDGE Alumni Laughing out loud


FIRST DEAL NEED HELP!

Hello

I can really use some help!

I currently have a motivated seller looking to relocate she has 2 houses that she want to sell both homes are 3Bed/2Full Baths, and I also have a buyer that Is looking for a 2bed/1-2Ba quick sell owner finance, handy man special

For my buyer can someone walk me through the steps to make at least a 20k profit from this deal, I can find homes within his price range which is 100k, I have been finding them for approx. 40k - 100k,

What I would like to know is what would be the best way to approach these deals.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Michelle


Works for Fannie Mae as Matt said

Another thing Matt mentioned was that he was buying Homepath (Fannie Mae) homes at the 70% mark that met his other criteria. He said that a lot of folks don't want to deal with these properties because sometimes they are in such poor shape. I latched on to this idea, since I had already been buying fannie mae homes....Just put in 3 offers at 70% of asking price for three properties, all three accepted in less than a week,

Any one else purchasing fannie mae homes?

This is a good interactive thread

Thanks

judi