This deal is a great example of how important it is to follow up on rejected offers!!
My first offer was on Dec 8, 2011. We resubmitted four times. Offer finally accepted the first week in MAY!!!
If we had not chased this one we would have not gotten it.
Organize your follow up system!!!
Numbers
Accepted offer of $30,000
Sold to my buyer for $42,000 plus all closing costs.
ARV $150,000
Rehab $50,000
I made $12,000
My buyer will net around $40,000
My buyer- husband and wife team of active fix/flippers. They do around 40 properties a year. Called me this morning on three properties I have under contract. I won't have to send these properties out at all more than likely. I use my websites less and less these days!!
Michael Mangham
Mentoring/Team Building Nationwide
MD Home Acquisitions LLC
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I know people working in Southern California and they are offering 80% to 85% of ARV minus repairs to get deals accepted. Remember, Dean teaches that if your offers are not getting accepted to come up a couple of % on the offers until you get one accepted. OR if your offers are all getting accepted than go down on your offer price.
In other words, what works in Detroit DOES NOT work in California. You have to adjust the offer formula to work within YOUR marketplace.
Good Luck!
Michael
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Mike, was this a different no money down deal?
If all of your offers are being rejected as too low, perhaps you need to make sure that you are starting with an After Repair Value (ARV) that is correct. Too often individuals start with the wrong ARV and this results in too low of an offer. If you need help let someone at the advisory line help you.
Roy Voeks
Official RE Coach
I am looking for direction... I have been finding propts by drive-by in my area. They are empty. One house the owners walked away and used mold infestation as reason. On county tax site, it went from value of $185k down to land only value of about $30k. I haven't been in it yet so don't know how bad it is but think if I could buy it, or get it under contract for $20-30k, I could flip it to a rehabber for $40-50k. ?? What contract do you use if you don't want to double close & incur cap gains? Any other advice? Thanks, Ken
Ken, I hope this helps you. Mold is usually a fixable problem. You need to ACT if you are going to get money coming in. You can assign the contract if you don't want to double close. Without knowing all of the details however, I do not know the best way to handle the transaction. Using the number you have you ought to consder a double close before an assignment. If you are going to assign, get it under contract and then use the assignment contract you can find on this site under docs and forms.
Roy Voeks
Official RE Coach
Roy, Thanks for your note. I will try to contact the lender and owner (since they still appear on the tax bill). From the neighbors I know, the owner discovered some mold and instead of going to the expense of repairing it they tried to sue previous owners (no luck) then they bought another house, and just walked away from this one. It reportedly has foundation issues as well. Curious: why the double close? And by ACTing, do you mean lining buyer up 1st? I don't think I want to tackle a fixer-upper like this for my first deal. Thanks again. Ken
You have shown again that persistence pays off. Thanks.
Joe
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Hi I started searching REOs and found a few; i have a site giving me the market value and other info about the homes. How did your offers begin? what did you do? Do you know a good buyers/sellers site list that u recomened? what questons did you ask?
thanks nick
Do not use a website to base a buying decision on is my advise.
My offers start with "This is what I will offer"
I determined the ARV and the rehab/remodel costs. Then I have the accurate numbers I need to make the offer.
Enter buyers list under Dean's chin and you should have all the info on how to build a buyers list.
Sellers can be banks (REOs off the MLS) Individual listed and unlisted motivated sellers. You must market for them. Once again, all the info is already posted here. You just have to take the time and effort to do the research.
You can also find what questions to ask agents, buyers, sellers etc. right here. Read through the threads and posts.
Michael
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http://www.mdhomeacquisitionsbargainhouses.com Buyer site
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http://www.mdlodeals.com Tenant/Buyer site
this is what its all about great job here!!
"Don't tell me I can't, Tell me how I can."
this is what its all about great job here!!
"Don't tell me I can't, Tell me how I can."
Carol, Are you talking about the Fannie Mae 90 day no flip rule. It is not really 90 day no flip. You can flip those all day long if your gross profit does not exceed 20% of your purchase price. You only have to wait 90 days if you are going to sell for more than 20% of your purchase price.
The lender in this case (Aurora Loan Services LLC)had no seasoning issues. Nothing was in the contract stating a specific seasoning issue. My title company processed the paperwork, no problem.
Michael
I am aware of the 20% however I guess I assumed that you made more than 20% so I was wondering how you got around this. I generally make more than 20% so I use a Quitclaim deed to transfer the property over to my buyer to avoid the flip rule. I was just wondering how you did it. Thanks for your reply
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To your success,
Carol Stinson
I appreciate your advices; i will work hard on my success.
See i was in a car acident about a month ago. I broke my left my leg in three so for now im researching at home online trying to get my team going and with your help and everyones help here it will all be ok.
Congratulations on your success
P.S it wasnt clear when you said "under dean's chin"...that was funny
Thank you
dont forget that if your offer is being rejected you might need to bump it up
If the listing is for 90,000 and you use 0.7% times that 90,000 you would offer 63,000 if that offer is rejected then increase the percent another 0.05% or 1% until they accept; in addition, maybe that offer was to low make a bit higher. Now dont forget like michaelmangham said keep up with your follow up system.
also remember what type of considitions the house is, the area, if it is AS IS, has it had a price reduction, is it vacant a home.
nick
Michael, do you print the letter and use it for filing manually or do you file it on your computer. You said old school so I'm thinking filing manually?
Shirley
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Carol,
I have wholesaled a couple of short sales that had a very strict 90 day resale provision. This strategy will work on ANY seasoning or resale issue. (In Texas you will have to use a different vehicle) Sell on a lease option between the b and c. The buyer MUST be a cash buyer. Your buyer functions as a private lender and funds the A closing. You make your fee. You give your buyer a deed of trust and put a deed in escrow with the closing agent. In 91 days your buyer exercises the option. Your buyer has a lien and a deed in escrow as security in the meantime.
This works with seasoned buyers, if you have the killer deal they won't care. They can start the rehab right away and sell to the end buyer in 91 days!!
Donna, Nick,
Thanks guys, hope all is well.
Shirley,
Yes, I am truly old school. I have a hand written paper filing system. I find I can make my notes and work the file faster than entering the data into my fancy spreadsheets. That's just me!
Michael
Knowledge is power, but execution trumps knowledge. Tony Robbins
http://www.mdhomeacquisitions.com Seller site
http://www.mdhomeacquisitionsbargainhouses.com Buyer site
http://www.mdhomeacquisitionshousehunter.com Bird Dog Site
http://www.mdlodeals.com Tenant/Buyer site