Offers Coming In At or Above FMV - What to do!

Offers Coming In At or Above FMV - What to do!

I recently spoke with a few different realtors as well as my own. They are seling like crazy and that because with the market and the economy the way it is right now, they only sure thing is REAL ESTATE. But here lies the problems for the the REI. Offers you re putting in are not getting accepted because others are coming in at or ABOVE FMV. So how do you counter act that.

First I never back off of my 40-60% BELOW FMV on offers I submit. Then as I low ball the offer I do a thorough inspection of said properties. I list every single inpercetion I can eye. Such as facial borads needing to be replaced, roof replacement/patching, plumbing issues, foundation cracks, leverage, interior/ecterior walls, electrical and etc. Once I attach this massive list to my offer it makes them think twice about accepting an offer at FMV when they NNOW KNOW they may have a bigger problem on their hand.

If this is an REO more than likely they will only sell as it - but it they are aware of such issues they have to disclose them, so there just went their FMV and above offer. Now what do you do? Once you offer is accepted on said property, market it to your buyers list, if you are assigning or wholesaling or re-selling - and attach you list. Now lets say you locked the property up at 100K and ARV is 165K but you have a huge list of things you listed. Realistically it may only cost 15K for example to fix them. Thats not your problem. Do the assignment for 110K and let the buyer know that you can provide them with other great deals such as this and even keep the assignment fee around the same as this one. You not only may a good dollar amount of the assignment but you also just may have found a regular investment partner that you can shuffle good low ball deals to like this one.

Now this may not work with all of your deals, but owners and banks do not want to be hassled with potential and know problems to property. So a lot of them will just accept your offer or with counter offer a lower price. They will now look more to the REI thant the regular consumer because the figure as a n investor it will be a smoother sale, quicker close and less of an issue with the problems you listed.

Remember that if you are buying FHA - this will not work as well, but if done correctly, you still have a pretty good chance of beating out those FMV and above FMV offers.

Alot of you may be saying - "Sure, whay would a bank accept a lower offer rather than a full value" the answer is simple - they don't want that sale to come back and bite them! This strategy may not be for you, so if it isnt please move on, but for those that want to try it - be bold, aggresive, confident and more power to you. It works for me :'}

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Make an offer

I just recently received Dean's new book--less than 2 weeks ago. Before I even finished reading it a pre-foreclosure lead fell into my lap from a friend.
Needless to say, I am excited and nervous.
Where do I find the form to make the offer?

You guys are terrific. Thanks for the great info.
Corvett


Pre-approval

Doe you have a pre-approval letter for all of your offers?

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re: Pre-approval letter

I dont usually attach one unless specifically asked to do so.

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My realtor wants a pre-approval

Hi guys

I just recently got my book in the mail. I found a great property that's going for less than 50% FMV and am planning on submitting an offer. I contacted my new realtor and he is asking me for a pre-aproval.If I'm going to assign the property what do I tell him? I do have at least $2,000 in the bank I could show as earnst money. But I'm stuck about the pre-approval letter because I have bad credit. Please help me overcome this hurddle.

Thanks.


Corvettmb

There is a Forms and Doc resource in the left hand panel of the home page here is the link:

http://www.deangraziosi.com/resources/real-estate-forms

Angela


Wow

What a thread! I can't believe these realtors!


Pre-Approval

Find a new relator. I put an ad on craigslist and have had several realtors ask for my business. I know I've heard this before on here, but you should pre-qualify them first. Let them know what you are going to be doing and ask them if they are comfortable with it.

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New

Hi,
I just got Dean's book Profit From Real Estate Right Now. I think it is the best book I have ever read. I need to re-read it of course, but I think the book, this website and all Dean offers is wonderful. I am ready to change my life with Real Estate! I do have a question, can anyone tell me what our responsibility is when it comes to title work. I haven't seen anything on title work here or anywhere. If we find a great deal and are going to assign it to another investor, how do we make sure it is a good deal title wise? If the title is full of liens, obviously it wouldn't be worth it to another investor. Thanks for your help. I have found this forum very insightful. Smiling
Amy Jo Strom


re: titles

Find yourself a good title company and let them do what they do best. Sistreat just posted on one called Old School. Look it up on here

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Thank you for the letter

Thank you for posting this letter. I have not found a realtor this way. I have been contacting the realtors on the houses that I looked at when attending open houses. I have been taking my own contractors to the homes with the agents present. On one property I will be going back a third time. Is this an unusual way of doing this? I was under the impression that the realtor had to be present when you looked at a property?
Kat


How to realtors earn commission when you assign a property?

I just have a simple question. I understand when you purchase a house, lets say with cash, that the realtor receives a percentage of the total sale price. What happens when you use a realtor to find properties to assign or wholesale. If I never actually buy the property, but instead sell the contract to another investor, how does my agent make a commission? Also how much of a commission is normal? Thank you.


re: realtors commissions on assigns

allenbrewington wrote:
I just have a simple question. I understand when you purchase a house, lets say with cash, that the realtor receives a percentage of the total sale price. What happens when you use a realtor to find properties to assign or wholesale. If I never actually buy the property, but instead sell the contract to another investor, how does my agent make a commission? Also how much of a commission is normal? Thank you.

Part of the assign that I use is t make sure sure that my realtor still gets their commission, so I make it a part of the assignment contract with my buyer/assignee that they HAVE to use my realtor. I have not had an issue with it so far and everyone gets what they are supposed to

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realtor commissions

I didn't even think about the buyer trying to get rid of my realtor to save $. How is the clause worded?


its word..

"Assignee must use assignors realtor to complete purchase of said property."

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Commission

Does this mean that the realtor representating the assignor get 3% commission not only from the assignor but another 3% commission for representaing the assignee? Or the realtor only get just the 3% commission for both the assignor and the assignee?

LS


commissions...lol

lloydsap wrote:
Does this mean that the realtor representating the assignor get 3% commission not only from the assignor but another 3% commission for representaing the assignee? Or the realtor only get just the 3% commission for both the assignor and the assignee?

LS


Good morning Lloyd, glad to see you so alert this morning

If your realtors commission was originally 3% then thats what they will get, if it was 6% then thats what they get. If you assign it you are out of it. But the person you assign it to MUST use your realtor and they and/or buyer are responsible for the realtors commissions. That way you have collected your assignment fee and your realtor is paid and the new buyer is satisfied with their purchase and the seller is counting his money!

CLASS DISMISSED...lol

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Thank you!

Thank you there my friend! The reason i've asked is because i haven't used a realtor to do any of my closing. I've used my RE attorney in all my closing but now i'm moving into a phase where i need to utilize a realtor on more deals. Yes, class is now dismissed, lol

LS


Hi Anita

Just curious. With the investors(my end buyers) that I am looking to assign deals to haggle over just what they would pay me as an assignment fee. If they are already "squeezing" me on my fee, it is unlikely that they would shell out another 6% to pay my realtor.

How do you get your end buyers to pay both your fee and the realtor. My end buyers are looking at me as their "realtor" since they are paying me.

Your thoughts?

Neil


Neikim24

Hi,

The way it works with an assignment is that you and/or your agent are writing up the contract and submit it to the seller. When it is accepted, you assign it to your end buyer, and the original contract transfers to your end buyer. The seller of the home (if listed with an agent) will be the one paying your realtor their commission not your end buyer so all you have to do is make sure you add the clause in to your assignment agreement to cover your realtor and she/he will be paid.


Yes

You just make sure your endbuyer doesn't have a Realtor.The Seller is Paying the listing agent and your agent.

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Low offers on REO's

Anita,

Thanks for the great original post. You make an excellent point and observation. With lenders now very afraid of, and running from subprime lending practices, using your strategy of listing every known defect and potential problem, it seems that they are willing to short sell some of these properties to REI's. Therefore, not offering "subprime properties" to the average home buyer and reducing their exposure to risk down the road.

Excellent strategy and thanks.

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fyi

just a refresher

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Finding the right realtor

Anita - great help here thank you!
About finding a good realtor for us investors - network at your REI Club. More of them will understand the game.

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Earnest Money

This no longer works with REO's, they are requiring 10% down as earnest money, no exceptions. Why they don't allow the $100 or even $500 for earnest money and then a deposit of some sort is very puzzling to us. Any ideas on how to finance earnest money?

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Pat and Dave

We make offers on REOs all the time that do not require 10%. These must be Fannie Mae properties you are looking at. And you are making a CASH offer right? OR you might need a new agent.
However, if you want to be taken seriously on any offer with a bank, putting up $100 to $500 is a JOKE. Unless you are offering on a $15,000 property of course.
You can get deals with very low earnest when dealing directly with UNLISTED motivated sellers. Just like Dean teaches. No banks or agents involved.
What did you LEARN after $50,000???

Michael Mangham
Mentoring/Team Building Nationwide
MD Home Acquisitions LLC

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Hello, Patricia & David

Hello~ and welcome to DG!

Earnest Money or "EMD" is a Deposit!

If you're shopping off the MLS, that is, dealing with institutional sellers (banks, gov't. owned, & retail seller properties) you will need to play by those [their] rules. They require traditional EMDs of $1,000 or better. Period.

(Not only will a lowball EMD lessen your credibility, it will insult them to some extent).
Remember you are COMPETING with multiple buyers.

OFF MARKET MOTIVATED SELLERS are your BEST bet!
~Look for the "hidden" treasures! ---Individual Sellers vs. Institutional Sellers

PS. Comb through the "Real Estate Forums" here. There's plenty of FREE information, content, suggestions, instructional how-to's, & personal success accounts, as well as, blunders, etc. in the DG.com Archives.
Right here under our noses. For free. :]

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