Randy's Journal; 1st runner up in Deans send me away contest

Randy's Journal; 1st runner up in Deans send me away contest

I am playing catch up on this to get everybody up to date. When I started my quest in real estate, we were in a small town of 5000, where I had just sued a nursing home that was privately owned by the county with a million dollar bond that was supported by the wealthier people of the town, so I was known by everyone, but not in a good way. My suit and dealings with the state played a big part in them being bought out by a corporation. Just 2 years before this we were on top of the world, and having a great time. Then dealings from a bad venture with a fortune 50 company and me doing land home deals with them, I lost everything. (bankruptsy) For the first 6 months of my real estate adventure with the DG family, I never closed a deal. Road a bus back & forth from TN to MO trying to get started. I could'nt even afford gas at that time. In the first part of my catch up journal, I closed my first deal June 1st 2009 and had closed 10 deals by Nov. 2009. So here's my story......
The first thing I would like to do is to thank Matt Larson, Drew Moren and my wife Julie. I still can't believe I bought a book off of the TV. I thought it was stupid when my wife ordered things from a catalog. I probably watched Deans infomercial forty times before I ordered his book. The day I got the book, I read it front to back and the next day I read it again. Then I decided to make that crucial call. After talking to the personnel at PMI and filling out a questionnaire, I decided to spend all the money my wife & I had which was $20,000.00 to try to make a better future for us. The crazy part is we had just went though bankruptcy, I was out of a job in a small town where if you were making $10 an hour you were doing good. There were no jobs in our area, and a hundred miles from any city to try to find a job. Until now, I had never bought anything that I could not see or touch. I had really put everything on the line! Drew really kept me motivated the whole time. I did everything that was asked of me. I new deep down this was probably my last chance. I found a good attorney, a good realtor and a good accounting firm. That part took a little time, but it paid off. I had all this lined up when Matt Larson arrived for my three day on site training. From what I learned from Drew, I had a house lined up to look at, and a good realtor to introduce Matt to. The on site training was a God send. It really helped my wife not to be so afraid of what I was risking our money on. It proved to her that someone with no money of their own, can find a way to make this work. Matt was living proof. After a great weekend with Matt, I thought I was off and running. I shotgun 20-30 offers a week, I was finding deals 30-40 cents on the dollar, then I hit a stumbling block. I contacted every small bank in a 40 mile radius, they would only give me 80% of rehab. It took me several meetings with each bank to even get this worked out, due to the economy. Looking back, getting that worked out was pretty good since I had just went through bankruptcy, I had no money, no job and a wife who only made $8.00 an hour. My next move was to talk to the three people that owned 90% of the rental property in Bethany, No luck. So now my last chance was hard money lenders. I did find some who would work with me, but not in Bethany Missouri. It was just too far for them to travel. By now I had 3 months involved and numerous calls to Drew, so we decided to try assignment of contract. I still had all the paper work Matt had given me on assignments. A lady I used to work with, was looking for a house to use as a group home. I got with my realtor, which was 40 miles away, and we went to work. While I was working on this deal, I started travelling to TN. I would spend 5 to 10 days in Clarksville TN then come home for a few days and work on the assignment deal. I chose Clarksville because I new they had survived the recession as good as any where, due to the fact they are a military town. Julie and I went to the bank and borrowed all we could against my pickup truck and we went to work. We started sending out letters from the pre foreclosure list, about 400. The problem was they were $3000 to $10,000 behind in payments. Drew really kept me motivated during this time. While I was in TN, I was staying at my folks house out in the country. No internet, phones that worked half the time and a mother who told me this would never work, several times a day and Julie in MO trying to keep working so we would have some kind of income. Finally I found a deal for the group home in Albany, MO. In northern MO, real estate is a little different. You can have a reality sign, and a for sale by owner sign in the same yard at the same time. I guess it's may the best man win. The realtor that had the house listed didn't want my realtor to come with me to look at the house. Finally we got this hurdle resolved. I made my offer, as you will see in my first deal. Somehow the realtor found out I was doing an assignment of contract. He called my clients and told them that what I was doing was illegal. Finally got that problem resolved. Then I went to the title company with my client and the title company said what I was doing wasn't legal. Got that resolved, then the realtor that listed the house said that we couldn't pick the title company, that he would. Finally got that resolved too. This was a great lesson learned. With Drew's help everything worked just like the book said it would. After all this trouble, I ended up with $1000.00, a lot of knowledge and 3 more deals with the same clients after the first of the year with $5000.00 assignment fee each. Not bad for a country boy. Now I finally had my first deal done.I have been working on some really big deals in Clarksville,TN. Staying in touch with Drew on a regular basis, I feel like I know him personnally. Now I had to swallow my pride and borrow another $5000.00 from my folks, and as always my mother said this would never work. By this time I had spent close to $3000.00 in adds of several different types, with not much response except from investors who wanted to know if I would buy their houses. As always Drew is always there helping me stay motivated. During this time I was talking to raltors, contractors and developers in the Clarksville area trying to figure out the market here. I used to be an inspector for the city and used to know the market pretty well. After a lot of research, I knew I wanted to target the military with VA loans. I started putting out bandit signs, very cheapest way and very plain, saying "We buy houses" and my phone number. What a great response! I would get 20 to 25 calls a week from about 10 to 15 signs I put out. Most of the calls were from people in the military having to transfer. All they wanted was to get what they owed on their house. After doing some brainstorming with Drew, reading Dean's book over and over and reviewing my course work, I came up with "Subject to existing loan". Now I had to put a packet together to make this work, and find buyers for the homes. I needed to cut out all the extra costs that I could. I ran a dummy add in the newspaper reading "no bank qualifying for sale by owner". I got great response from people who had $3000 to $10,000 to put down. I knew the type of homes I wanted were homes bought 2 or 3 years ago and 4 to 10 years old. These houses sold well under market value due to Clarksville being full of new homes. Developers were discounting houses trying just to break even. All the military troops had been deployed. So then I got to working with Drew, realtors, attorneys, property management companies and other investors to come up with the best of everything I could find. For my buyers packet I have the following.. 1. Standard real estate purchase and sale agreement,"subject to existing loan" encumbering the property. 2.Letter to mortgage company telling them to send all information concerning the house to me. 3.Escrow agreement 4.Standard warranty deed. 5.Power of attorney for closing, insurance, mortgage payment and all matters pertaining to property. 6.Letter of agreement and addendum(cover your ass letter). This way the home owner never has to do anything with the house again. In my sellers packet I have a sellers agreement and a renters agreement. Once I got all this together, I was ready to make deals and make money. I have probably turned down some good deals, due to being a little more cautious than I should have. These are the type of deals that I am really targeting right now. I am giving 0 down, sometimes getting the home owner to make up to 3 months of payments. All my homes have at least $10,000.00 in equity and are in excellent shape. I have 8 homes like this. Combined worth in excess of 1 million dollars, with zero down and all of them were gotten in the last four months. When I sell these homes I do a sellers agreement and rental agreement. I have gotten as little as $3000.00 down and up to $8000.00 down. These are non refundable down payments, with over $100.00 a month in positive cash flow per house. All of the people I have bought houses from are very greateful for the service I am providing. All of them have said they can't afford to make 2 house payments, you can close in one day, and I don't charge them. They also say that realtors won't promise thatthey could sell the house. A couple of these houses were listed with realtors when the owner contacted me,but with a little work and no money, I got a release from them. Summary..Motivated seller, transfer and can't make 2 house payments, 0 down, I have deed, I have power of attorney, I have CYA letter, house financed 2 to 4 years ago, all are VA loans with locked interest, sell house $20 to$40,000.00 in profit, $5000.00 average down payment, over $100 positive cash fow per month per house. The clients I buy from are happy, the clients that move in are happy and I make money which makes me happy. I have one more deal I almost forgot about in North Carolina. My nephew is going to NASCAR school there. This is a town where housing is expensive and rent is even higher. I talked my sister, his mother into buying a house there for him to live in while in school and use it as an investment. There are a lot of houses on the market there for $300,000 to $500,000. We found the house that she bought on the pre foreclosure list, but it was already an REO, $158,000.00 was owed on it and we got it for $121,000.00. This deal took four months, even though it was a cash deal the bank kept taking other offers, but the financing would never go through. The bank finally excepted our offer and the deal has been closed. She is renting rooms out to other students and her son lives there free. Summery.. No house payment, free rent for son, and sell in 2 yrs for $40,000.00 profit. Thanks to Deans book and the PMI staff, the following is what I have accomplished in the last 6 months.. I have a knowledge that is priceless, I have closed deals in four states, When I paid the bank off in Bethany, they wanted to talk to me about my deals, Now that I had some under my belt, they wanted to work with me. I own 8 homes with 0 down. I have gotten more aggressive and am getting owners to pay 2 to 3 months of payments. Have clients ready to move in the day the owners move out, doubling profit for 2 to 3 months. Have local bank willing to work with me. I moved 600 miles. Wife owns first home. Everyone paid off. Have local investor to front money for homes and split profit. Proved everyone wrong who said this wouldn't work. Once again I would like to say thank you to Matt Larson. Your trip to Bethany,MO for 3 days really gave my wife the courage to stand behind me. I don't think I would have made it with her being negative about this venture. She was very scared. Matt helped to ease her mind and prove this could really work. Drew, your motivation and endless hours you have spent with me is priceless. I feel like I have a true friend that I have never met. Gross value $1,041,800.00 Net value $229,404.24 Down payments received on 7 homes $37,000.00 Positive monthly cash flow on 7 homes $1,091.99 We live in the 8th home.
Thanks, Randy (sorry this is sooo long!)

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Way to go Randy, your time

Way to go Randy, your time is better spent else where. Doesnt mean you cant stop in and make sure things are going the way you want. Maybe soon you can hire a project manager that you know and can trust to make sure all things are going well so you can just go out and find deals every day Smiling
I admire your work ethic, but thats what made you so successful in the first place.
Keep shooting for the stars Robin Hood Eye-wink

Richie


Richie

I know sometimes I stretch the day to the limit. But like I said early I have always been a person that lived by yesterdays gone and tomorrow may never come. So I best get everything done today that i can. A lot of this comes from me farming when I was growing up. You had to get everything done that you could today because it might rain tomorrow. But as my investing is growing I am really trying to learn how to let other people help out, And even though it may not seam like it I am getting better.I mean a normal day for me now is only 12 to 14 hours and for me that's good. And at least I know thy i have to change, So that a step in the right direction. After working on our new house for 13 hours today I come home took a showier got my second wind and ready to go again. But instead I talked myself into getting on here for a little bit but I will be at it at 4 am in the morning.

Randy

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Randy

Admitting it is the first step! Smiling

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Cathy

That part you are truly correct. And this is something that I have to remind myself of the start of each day. And believe me I know change is not bad. If i hadn't changed I would not be setting here with over 30 deals under my belt. And for this i have a lot of gratitude for The success acamandy, Great coaches and Dean's loyal staff and all the great folks on this site. I can hardly wait for the EDGE next year, I already miss all the great people I meet.

Randy

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Randy

I think you are awesome! I just look at all you have done and am so proud of you. I am glad you are a member here on Deans board. I want to meet you someday when we come back to Nashville to take care of some business.

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"SUCCESS WALKS HAND IN HAND WITH FAILURE"


sistreat

Same here, I would love to meet you to. Just let me know when you are in town and I will make it work, Hope all is going well.

Randy

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I am back

I have got to get back to posting, I have really been going at it hard since the Edge. My goal is to have Julie to be able to give her two week notice in July. So with that said I have had to step it up a notch. have got several different things working will share soon.

Randy

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Keep it up Randy! I knew you

Keep it up Randy! I knew you were up to something. I hope Julie gets to do that. That is something we all dream of being able to do. I am giving myself 4yrs to reach that point.
I know with your work ethic its a no brainer that She will be putting in her papers in July some time.
keep up the hard work with that amazin system you have going. One day I will call you to get refreshed on how you do it and a copy of your contracts they way you wrote them up. I really am curious if I can do that in NY.
good luck my friend

Richie.


If you wear the dress

They've got to let you go; but only on one condition. Pics must be taken and Randy, you must put it as your profile picture for at least a week! Evil

I really enjoyed your journal! I'm really interested in doing some subject tos! I also have a military family I'm working with (happens to be my cuz!) and am having him gather some of the paperwork he has. Unfortunately he's had an agent for 6 months that's done nothing for him and he thinks he's still bound by the agent contract, so its more complicated! Sad

Enjoyed reading your journal. I think I've finally caught up on it! You are a TRUE inspiration!

My husband is also the same way; believes no one can do anything better and its like pulling teeth just to get him to call his friend to help him do some of the bigger projects. He always comes in grumpy because he tried to take on a two person project himself and gets upset with me because I didn't help him! He seems to forget I am taking care of the 4 kids while he spends the entire day doing his 'projects' ! Boy, if I had and ENTIRE day to work on REI, I'd be so elated! He just doesn't understand!


Tammy

here in Indiana, you can break your realtor contract. you just have to give proper notice. not only that, but most of those contracts only last 6 months. if he's not getting what he thinks he should, then he should not be bound to stick with that agent.

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RICHIE

Feel free to call anytime and yes it will work anywhere. and Julie and I have got out plates full. she is at home working and I am 600 miles away. Will feel you in if everything works out. But as many as we got going on they all can not go south. I love a good challenge that is what makes this fun.

Randy

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I can't wait

I can't wait til the day when you can retire your wife - I know that is her dream too to work long side you full time and not continue to do them both. I pray for that day all the time.

I love reading your journal and other post, such extensive knowledge of this industry. I have learned so much from you and others on this site. I can't wait til I move on to my first deal.

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Brownstone Investment Group
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Job 22:21 Submit to God, and you will have peace; then things will go well for you.
Job 22:28 You will succeed in whatever you choose to do, and light will shine on the road ahead of you.
Deut 28:8 The Lord will guarantee a blessing on everything yo do and will fill your storehouses with grain. The Lord you God will bless you in the land he is giving you.


I just read all your

I just read all your journal and I cant say how much you accomplish in so little time. I know you will have your island where you and your wife will retire.

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Thanks

But like I said in my journal my back was really against the wall, and if I can do it anyone can if they put the time in and not let fear win;

Randy

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Randy

Thanks for posting on your story..My back is to the wall now also so we have decided to move forward - I got a quick question at what point did you establish your LLC or business structure?

I am low on funds and am trying to see what exactly you did first.

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Erika, REI
Brownstone Investment Group
405.748.0734

www.facebook.com/Erika.Coleman
www.twitter.com/brownstoneREIgr
Job 22:21 Submit to God, and you will have peace; then things will go well for you.
Job 22:28 You will succeed in whatever you choose to do, and light will shine on the road ahead of you.
Deut 28:8 The Lord will guarantee a blessing on everything yo do and will fill your storehouses with grain. The Lord you God will bless you in the land he is giving you.


ERIKA

I set my LLC up right from the beginning. But I did it myself and the cost was less than 200 Dollars. but i did it myself.

randy

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PUT OFFER IN 5 MONTHS AGO

I put a offer in over 5 months ago. 55k cash. Had to deal with 4 sisters. They wanted 90k which wasn't a bad deal but didn't have the cash. Bur at 55k I will come up with it somehow. This will be a flip.

Randy

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LLC Thanks Randy

Thanks for the update regarding the LLC that is our plan also, We have one so we figured we could us it as our guide. The fee is about $100 in Oklahoma.

Just want start in the correct direction with the proper foundation in place.

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Erika, REI
Brownstone Investment Group
405.748.0734

www.facebook.com/Erika.Coleman
www.twitter.com/brownstoneREIgr
Job 22:21 Submit to God, and you will have peace; then things will go well for you.
Job 22:28 You will succeed in whatever you choose to do, and light will shine on the road ahead of you.
Deut 28:8 The Lord will guarantee a blessing on everything yo do and will fill your storehouses with grain. The Lord you God will bless you in the land he is giving you.


ERIKA

Great, Just keep moving foward and taking action that is the key to the game. Good luck and let me know if i can help.

Randy

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SO far behind

I know its going to be a couple of weeks before I can get caught up on my journal, But right now I can,t believe that I am actuary partnering with people off of this site. and I don.t think it would have ever happen if it hadn't been for the edge. everyone have a great 4Th.

Randy

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TOOK TIME OFF

I can't believe I did it. I took some time off to be with my family this afternoon. And I must say it was great. I guess I just have to work a little harder to get caught up this week.

Randy

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SOMETIMES ITS STILL TUFF

Well I have learned one thing in the past year. People either pay good or don't. Not much in between. I told a couple Friday either stayed caught up are get out. went to get their money this morning and they are gone. On well I did get their 5.000 down. and they did pay for 10 months, And I did get 2500.00 positive cash flow. But they do owe me 1000.00 dollars for July. Well I guess no matter how you look at it I still maid 6500.00. And they did leave the house clean. Well I guess I better get it posted again. And no one told me this would be easy but profitable.

Randy

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HOUSE IS GONE

Well the house I posted about this morning is gone. I did take a van and 3500.00 for the down payment. Well I have to get to work and get the contract done so I can go get it signed today.

Randy

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Randy

at least you didn't have to evict the people or kick them out. they took you at your word. then you have it rented again. awesome! i know of a couple in Rockford, IL who teach how to collect back rent, if you are interested.

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IT'S ALL GOOD AND EVERYTHING IS WORKING OUT PERFECTLY FOR ME!
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Evidence
Appearing
Real


Thanks

I have it written up in my contract were the Attorney does it. It does,t cost me anything. He gets paid a percentage above what is owed to me. My Attorney actually has rental property and uses my contract now.

Randy

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Atty Contract

Hey Randy is there anyway you would allow us to see a copy of your contract. That sounds like some great protection that could be very usefull in this journey.

And way to move on that house and get it rented asap...that is some serious moving. And you scored a van....!

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Erika, REI
Brownstone Investment Group
405.748.0734

www.facebook.com/Erika.Coleman
www.twitter.com/brownstoneREIgr
Job 22:21 Submit to God, and you will have peace; then things will go well for you.
Job 22:28 You will succeed in whatever you choose to do, and light will shine on the road ahead of you.
Deut 28:8 The Lord will guarantee a blessing on everything yo do and will fill your storehouses with grain. The Lord you God will bless you in the land he is giving you.


ERIKA

Julie is working to get all my contracts on here to make it easy to send and were people can read them. If I don't have them to you in the next 5 days PLEASE remind me.

Randy

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ANOTHER DAY

well I guess I need to set now and take a few minutes to focus. I have got to get a little more organised. I have a lot going on in several different directions. It has really slowed me down this past week being under the weather, As i said slow down not stopped. I am really looking forward to getting my master plan on paper,

Randy

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Thanks Randy

Thanks I can't wait, it is funny you spoke of organization in the following post I have trying to not only organized my things but my time before I move forward...I want to move on though feel like I am sitting still to dang long and it is driving my loo loo

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Erika, REI
Brownstone Investment Group
405.748.0734

www.facebook.com/Erika.Coleman
www.twitter.com/brownstoneREIgr
Job 22:21 Submit to God, and you will have peace; then things will go well for you.
Job 22:28 You will succeed in whatever you choose to do, and light will shine on the road ahead of you.
Deut 28:8 The Lord will guarantee a blessing on everything yo do and will fill your storehouses with grain. The Lord you God will bless you in the land he is giving you.


Randy, I really like that

Randy, I really like that you re wrote your own contracts. I definately will try to use them and your system here. I am so curious to see how your system can work here. I will just have to eliminate the YA'LL from it i guess Eye-wink
lol Smiling
talk to YA later you crazy southerner.

Richie.