Randy's Journal; 1st runner up in Deans send me away contest

Randy's Journal; 1st runner up in Deans send me away contest

I am playing catch up on this to get everybody up to date. When I started my quest in real estate, we were in a small town of 5000, where I had just sued a nursing home that was privately owned by the county with a million dollar bond that was supported by the wealthier people of the town, so I was known by everyone, but not in a good way. My suit and dealings with the state played a big part in them being bought out by a corporation. Just 2 years before this we were on top of the world, and having a great time. Then dealings from a bad venture with a fortune 50 company and me doing land home deals with them, I lost everything. (bankruptsy) For the first 6 months of my real estate adventure with the DG family, I never closed a deal. Road a bus back & forth from TN to MO trying to get started. I could'nt even afford gas at that time. In the first part of my catch up journal, I closed my first deal June 1st 2009 and had closed 10 deals by Nov. 2009. So here's my story......
The first thing I would like to do is to thank Matt Larson, Drew Moren and my wife Julie. I still can't believe I bought a book off of the TV. I thought it was stupid when my wife ordered things from a catalog. I probably watched Deans infomercial forty times before I ordered his book. The day I got the book, I read it front to back and the next day I read it again. Then I decided to make that crucial call. After talking to the personnel at PMI and filling out a questionnaire, I decided to spend all the money my wife & I had which was $20,000.00 to try to make a better future for us. The crazy part is we had just went though bankruptcy, I was out of a job in a small town where if you were making $10 an hour you were doing good. There were no jobs in our area, and a hundred miles from any city to try to find a job. Until now, I had never bought anything that I could not see or touch. I had really put everything on the line! Drew really kept me motivated the whole time. I did everything that was asked of me. I new deep down this was probably my last chance. I found a good attorney, a good realtor and a good accounting firm. That part took a little time, but it paid off. I had all this lined up when Matt Larson arrived for my three day on site training. From what I learned from Drew, I had a house lined up to look at, and a good realtor to introduce Matt to. The on site training was a God send. It really helped my wife not to be so afraid of what I was risking our money on. It proved to her that someone with no money of their own, can find a way to make this work. Matt was living proof. After a great weekend with Matt, I thought I was off and running. I shotgun 20-30 offers a week, I was finding deals 30-40 cents on the dollar, then I hit a stumbling block. I contacted every small bank in a 40 mile radius, they would only give me 80% of rehab. It took me several meetings with each bank to even get this worked out, due to the economy. Looking back, getting that worked out was pretty good since I had just went through bankruptcy, I had no money, no job and a wife who only made $8.00 an hour. My next move was to talk to the three people that owned 90% of the rental property in Bethany, No luck. So now my last chance was hard money lenders. I did find some who would work with me, but not in Bethany Missouri. It was just too far for them to travel. By now I had 3 months involved and numerous calls to Drew, so we decided to try assignment of contract. I still had all the paper work Matt had given me on assignments. A lady I used to work with, was looking for a house to use as a group home. I got with my realtor, which was 40 miles away, and we went to work. While I was working on this deal, I started travelling to TN. I would spend 5 to 10 days in Clarksville TN then come home for a few days and work on the assignment deal. I chose Clarksville because I new they had survived the recession as good as any where, due to the fact they are a military town. Julie and I went to the bank and borrowed all we could against my pickup truck and we went to work. We started sending out letters from the pre foreclosure list, about 400. The problem was they were $3000 to $10,000 behind in payments. Drew really kept me motivated during this time. While I was in TN, I was staying at my folks house out in the country. No internet, phones that worked half the time and a mother who told me this would never work, several times a day and Julie in MO trying to keep working so we would have some kind of income. Finally I found a deal for the group home in Albany, MO. In northern MO, real estate is a little different. You can have a reality sign, and a for sale by owner sign in the same yard at the same time. I guess it's may the best man win. The realtor that had the house listed didn't want my realtor to come with me to look at the house. Finally we got this hurdle resolved. I made my offer, as you will see in my first deal. Somehow the realtor found out I was doing an assignment of contract. He called my clients and told them that what I was doing was illegal. Finally got that problem resolved. Then I went to the title company with my client and the title company said what I was doing wasn't legal. Got that resolved, then the realtor that listed the house said that we couldn't pick the title company, that he would. Finally got that resolved too. This was a great lesson learned. With Drew's help everything worked just like the book said it would. After all this trouble, I ended up with $1000.00, a lot of knowledge and 3 more deals with the same clients after the first of the year with $5000.00 assignment fee each. Not bad for a country boy. Now I finally had my first deal done.I have been working on some really big deals in Clarksville,TN. Staying in touch with Drew on a regular basis, I feel like I know him personnally. Now I had to swallow my pride and borrow another $5000.00 from my folks, and as always my mother said this would never work. By this time I had spent close to $3000.00 in adds of several different types, with not much response except from investors who wanted to know if I would buy their houses. As always Drew is always there helping me stay motivated. During this time I was talking to raltors, contractors and developers in the Clarksville area trying to figure out the market here. I used to be an inspector for the city and used to know the market pretty well. After a lot of research, I knew I wanted to target the military with VA loans. I started putting out bandit signs, very cheapest way and very plain, saying "We buy houses" and my phone number. What a great response! I would get 20 to 25 calls a week from about 10 to 15 signs I put out. Most of the calls were from people in the military having to transfer. All they wanted was to get what they owed on their house. After doing some brainstorming with Drew, reading Dean's book over and over and reviewing my course work, I came up with "Subject to existing loan". Now I had to put a packet together to make this work, and find buyers for the homes. I needed to cut out all the extra costs that I could. I ran a dummy add in the newspaper reading "no bank qualifying for sale by owner". I got great response from people who had $3000 to $10,000 to put down. I knew the type of homes I wanted were homes bought 2 or 3 years ago and 4 to 10 years old. These houses sold well under market value due to Clarksville being full of new homes. Developers were discounting houses trying just to break even. All the military troops had been deployed. So then I got to working with Drew, realtors, attorneys, property management companies and other investors to come up with the best of everything I could find. For my buyers packet I have the following.. 1. Standard real estate purchase and sale agreement,"subject to existing loan" encumbering the property. 2.Letter to mortgage company telling them to send all information concerning the house to me. 3.Escrow agreement 4.Standard warranty deed. 5.Power of attorney for closing, insurance, mortgage payment and all matters pertaining to property. 6.Letter of agreement and addendum(cover your ass letter). This way the home owner never has to do anything with the house again. In my sellers packet I have a sellers agreement and a renters agreement. Once I got all this together, I was ready to make deals and make money. I have probably turned down some good deals, due to being a little more cautious than I should have. These are the type of deals that I am really targeting right now. I am giving 0 down, sometimes getting the home owner to make up to 3 months of payments. All my homes have at least $10,000.00 in equity and are in excellent shape. I have 8 homes like this. Combined worth in excess of 1 million dollars, with zero down and all of them were gotten in the last four months. When I sell these homes I do a sellers agreement and rental agreement. I have gotten as little as $3000.00 down and up to $8000.00 down. These are non refundable down payments, with over $100.00 a month in positive cash flow per house. All of the people I have bought houses from are very greateful for the service I am providing. All of them have said they can't afford to make 2 house payments, you can close in one day, and I don't charge them. They also say that realtors won't promise thatthey could sell the house. A couple of these houses were listed with realtors when the owner contacted me,but with a little work and no money, I got a release from them. Summary..Motivated seller, transfer and can't make 2 house payments, 0 down, I have deed, I have power of attorney, I have CYA letter, house financed 2 to 4 years ago, all are VA loans with locked interest, sell house $20 to$40,000.00 in profit, $5000.00 average down payment, over $100 positive cash fow per month per house. The clients I buy from are happy, the clients that move in are happy and I make money which makes me happy. I have one more deal I almost forgot about in North Carolina. My nephew is going to NASCAR school there. This is a town where housing is expensive and rent is even higher. I talked my sister, his mother into buying a house there for him to live in while in school and use it as an investment. There are a lot of houses on the market there for $300,000 to $500,000. We found the house that she bought on the pre foreclosure list, but it was already an REO, $158,000.00 was owed on it and we got it for $121,000.00. This deal took four months, even though it was a cash deal the bank kept taking other offers, but the financing would never go through. The bank finally excepted our offer and the deal has been closed. She is renting rooms out to other students and her son lives there free. Summery.. No house payment, free rent for son, and sell in 2 yrs for $40,000.00 profit. Thanks to Deans book and the PMI staff, the following is what I have accomplished in the last 6 months.. I have a knowledge that is priceless, I have closed deals in four states, When I paid the bank off in Bethany, they wanted to talk to me about my deals, Now that I had some under my belt, they wanted to work with me. I own 8 homes with 0 down. I have gotten more aggressive and am getting owners to pay 2 to 3 months of payments. Have clients ready to move in the day the owners move out, doubling profit for 2 to 3 months. Have local bank willing to work with me. I moved 600 miles. Wife owns first home. Everyone paid off. Have local investor to front money for homes and split profit. Proved everyone wrong who said this wouldn't work. Once again I would like to say thank you to Matt Larson. Your trip to Bethany,MO for 3 days really gave my wife the courage to stand behind me. I don't think I would have made it with her being negative about this venture. She was very scared. Matt helped to ease her mind and prove this could really work. Drew, your motivation and endless hours you have spent with me is priceless. I feel like I have a true friend that I have never met. Gross value $1,041,800.00 Net value $229,404.24 Down payments received on 7 homes $37,000.00 Positive monthly cash flow on 7 homes $1,091.99 We live in the 8th home.
Thanks, Randy (sorry this is sooo long!)

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Too Funny!!!

I echo Rina, you having me rolling on the floor laughing! Glad I get to be in on the girlie week...did you guys pick dates??? Randy - you are so amazing with all you've done - its an honor to have met you guys and count you as friends. And I am really going to study your strategy because I definitely want to apply it to some deals here in Wi. So I'll probably be picking your brain now and then! Also I can pick you up a nice dress at Goodwill if you want to come up and talk REI Smiling


randy,randy ,randy, please

randy,randy ,randy, please dont put that dress on Eye-wink let me get that picture out of my head lol.
Let the girls be. You can have a guys week and keep busy putting deals together.
I can't wait til the EDGE next yr, I miss all you people already.
Well I am keeping busy chasing the dream. like you did ,I want to catch it.
keep up the good work!
Richie.


Richie

If you read my post back in the beginning I said i would do what ever it took. Well if it takes A dress to talk REI with Laura I just hope they have one small enough for me. This is one thing I promises myself when i started this I would do what ever it took as long as it was legal. See I can even make a win win out of wearing a dress. Let me see Jan top that one.

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OMG! HAHAHA

This is toooo much!! LOL!!

(I gotta put something REI.. send me those lists in the morning, would ya? Smiling)

LOL!

G'night!! Smiling

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TO ALL

Its really nice to have a good laugh every now and then. And i sure miss all of you Guys and girls. Everyone one of you have affected Julie and i in a positive way. The money I spent on the success acamandy was worth every penny if the only thing I got out of it was meeting all of you. All rest well tonight their are HOMES out calling your names for tomorrow BUY ME BUY ME PLEASE BUY ME.

Randy

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Rina and Randy

love the dress comments. my son and his best friend dressed up like cheerleaders with full makeup their sophomore year in high school. while Jared was stationed in Germany and his best friend was a sniper in Iraq, the friend's Mom sent a picture of them dressed up like that. Jared left it on his desk and every time new guys would come to his room, he'd ask if they wanted to see a picture of some really "hot chicks" and would show them that picture. most of the guys would just look and swivel their heads around, but never say a word. one guy said those were the ugliest cheerleaders he ever saw. i still have not seen that picture!

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Great things are happening

Just wanted to take a minute to think all the DG family.Coaches staff, Megan, She a sweetie. And foremost DEAN for not letting fear stand in the way of putting all this together. I really don't know were I would be today if not for all of you. I really thought I was two tired to start over again. I was never more wrong in my life.

THANKS TO ALL PARTIES INVOLVED

Randy

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CHANGE IS HARD

Sometimes changing is hard, Even though you know it is good. I actually hired someone today to work on the house Julie and I just got. This is something i just don't do. I have always been a hands on person. Most people can't do as good as I do. But I figured if i could let someone to do my house it would be a lot easy to let someone do the work on the other ones. I guess I have to wait and see if I live threw this.

Randy

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Awesome Journal!

Hi Randy and Julie, I just finished reading your Journal.
I want to congratulate you on your success,motivation and
creativity, you are Awesome!
Thanks for sharing, can you PM me info on your subject to
packet, maybe I can tweak-it for my State, THANK YOU

George41

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randy

hey i know how you feel when you finally LET GO and hire someone to do the work for you but as you know YOUR TIME is worth more now !! it still hurts a little and i am sure for u as me that NO ONE can do it as well !!! but with time we will find that someone or contractor /team that we mold will be as good and or better due to our guidance !!
I HEAR YOU man !!
jay

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Jay

We just left the house to get everything pick out. They are going to start Mon morning, And I am sure dreading it. But I do know that I have to let go. If i survive this the rest will be easy, Hope all is going well.

Randy

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Well I did stop myself

Well I got done with the yard work and started loading my truck up to go work on the house and Julie ask me what I was doing. I had already forgot that I am not going to work on the house. So I guess I go see if I can finds me another deal. Can't stand to set around and do nothing.

Randy

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Randy!

Trust me my friend - your time is MUCH better spent in other areas! You are an unstoppable dynamic force in real estate and I am so glad to know you and hopefully do some deals together in the future! You can still do some hands on for fun once in a while Smiling And I've said the same thing you did above, that if I got nothing else from the academy and Dean and this site than the friendships I've made I'd still be happy - you guys are PRICELESS!!! Hope to see you soon - and tell Julie Rina and I are busy planning our girls trip too! Gonna be a blast!


Randy, I HEAR WHAT YOUR

Randy, I HEAR WHAT YOUR SAYING. i NEVER HIRE ANYONE TO WORK ON MY HOUSE.
I have to do things myself because i feel they will take a short cut to get something done and I wont. But then again you were an inspector so you can inspect when you want to make yourself feel better Eye-wink
Good luck to you and Julie with the new home, Its the start of new memories.
have you had any brain and eggs since you are home Smiling lol.
I definately am going for the week next yr. I plan on having a few deals under my belt by then. We all have to make a plan to get there a few days before and stay a few days later.
I will call ahead to have the breakfast menu adjusted for you at your place Eye-wink

good luck with all you have going.
Richie.


No Brain and eggs

I have to wait for squirrel season to open back up, You can't buy them in the store but your comment has sure made me hungry. Going early and staying late sounds great.

Randy

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Laura

Thinks Laura. You know that the funny part. I know I need to get away from the hands on. And I do know that it is costing me. And probably with everything that's going on that is going to help me change. I am still working on how I can make some money on this girls thing. Their has to be some type of discrimination here. I guess if all of you got together and gave me a house I could probably let it slide. Must have clean title. This would make a win win for all. You would have a great Tax write off. And I would have another house 0 down.

Randy

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Thank you Randy for

Thank you Randy for directing me to your journal. It was inspiring. I to am in Missouri, and unemployed with no prospects. Laid-off from a middle management position 1yr 1/2 ago with nothing on the horizon.
I have completed one of Deans books last night, on to another. My first meeting with my PMI coach is tomorrow. Can't wait for my first deal.
I too will do whatever it takes.
Love to see you in that dress....I'll wear one with you. I'm pretty sure that I've got better legs.

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Hey Randy

Thanks for sharing. My husband is in the same place. I have had a difficult time convincing him that his time is better spent working deal..He struggles with it. I told him our next flip he isn't doing any of the work and his comment was "Then what am I going to do?" I laughed and told him you'll be negotiating deals Smiling And like the comments above, nobody will do it as good, but we can make more money with you and my Dan finding deals

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Donna

Thinks for the encouragement. I just spent two hours over at the house working. But I guess that's better than the 12 to 14 hours I would have spent. But I must admit my neck has been tense all day, the pain has been almost unbearable. When I got to the house it left, when I left the house IT returned. But I Will keep taking action of not taking action. I know i Have to change. their is other people to do the small stuff.

randy

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Randy and Julie

It was great meeting you both at the Edge. I read parts of your journal and it truly is an amazing story. Thanks for the tip about your restaurant too. I can't wait for next year's EDGE as well. I loved the dress story and the girls going away without you. I'm sure they might take you up on that deal vs you wearing a dress.

I also understand about wanting to do the work yourself. I just got done talking with a local friend investor about what work she's done and what work she's hired. I don't want to do the work and I don't really have the time right now.

The way you handled your REI business is a true testament that this does work and you have to be creative.

Thank you for all you do and all of your sharing,

Blessings,
Cathy L


Cathy

Just wanted to think you for your positive feed back, And yes I love to be creative. Have got some new things working here in the next 30 days. Will keep everyone posted.

Randy

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Howdy stranger!

Your Journal has gotten so long I have to take a whole day to catch up... WOW!!!

You ROCK my friend!!

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still working with two banks on some good deals, They have just never heard of what I am trying to do, But they are trying to get it work out.

Randy

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Got my eye on you Randy, I

Got my eye on you Randy, Eye-wink
I am watching every move you make. I like the way you operate. keep up the good work bud,and tell Julie not to un pack everything because you may sell that house next and build a bigger one for her after you get done with some more deals this yr.
good luck
Richie.


Randy

can i be nosy and ask for more information? are you trying to do "subject to" with the banks involved, or something else? the reason i ask is that a real estate broker (i am a realtor) just told me that doing lease/options and land contracts is basically not legal because it breaks the contract with the lender. i know they all say that, although not the agency i work for. your post just makes me wonder if there is a way to work with the banks up front and help the seller and tenant/buyer. thanks.

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Rich

That's something that I have always said. If the price is right and I have it its for sale. And if i don't have a house walmart does have tents until one comes along and then I will do a lease purchase on my tent. One thing I have learned about RI anything is possible if you keep a open mind and make it a win win. I have got a few different things in the making and hope to post on them in the next 30 to 60 days.

Randy

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Linda

I do have one deal that a small town bank had that the owner called and needed to get rid of it. and the bank he had the loan with was also my bank which knows that all my deals are subject to. They have seen everything in my packet. they really work close with me because I send all my people to them that wants to get the loan in their name. And for your question yes I did get the deal work out with the bank and I am only paying interest on it till I do something with it. I just wanted to try to see if it would work.

Randy

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Awsome Randy!! I figured you

Awsome Randy!! I figured you were out in the trenches getting something done.
I am working on getting my first out of state purchse done too. I am really excited about it.
keep in touch.
Richie.


Richie

Good luck and if i can ever be of any help let me know.

Randy

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2 more homes

What a day, I was trying to slow down a little bit on my subject to just to get a few more things going. Then as always it slapped me in the face. I have people that can do this for me. Sometimes I don't understand why I am so hard headed and think I have to do everything. But I guess the good side to all of this at least I am seeing this. So for these two homes I am going to let some else help out. And I am going to share one more thing I am still doing a little to much work on our new house, But I do have three hired that are working 7 days a week so i can get it done. And yes I am a slave driver but I don't ask anyone to do something that i want do myself. Everyone have a great day. I have to set down and get my days planed out for the next 3 days.

Randy

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